I am staying out of any fights. That's one reason I don't post here or any of the other forums. Also, I find it too addictive. Or did.
Your last post was calm enough, but be honest, if you re-read everybody's post (I don't mean just yours, everybody's), there are enough insults to go around. I can't say I have read all the posts for the past few months but the most recent ones you did start a few guys going. Whether that was your intention or not, your comments are what they are.
All I am saying about the last couple of posts is that I used to look at all sites. Not just this site but those sites that say they are just helping guys out. I would have to agree that they have other motivations just as any other website does.
Without talking about Chnlove specifically, I think it is bad to be censoring guys whether they are right or wrong, or whether if you or I agree with them or not. Because freedom of speech, presumably, will lead to the truth.
When guys post bad things whether they are about certain agencies or certain ladies it is not justified to say you are closing shop just because that's not what you are all about. Maybe it is. In that case, just state what you are instead of telling readers that you are just trying to help guys like me. That is not accurate at all.
I also don't want to get into the debate about where all these names or guys are coming from but I would also conclude that if they don't work for Chnlove they certainly have a close association when I first started out at least. You don't keep thanking Chnlove for no good reason. If I read the Consumer Magazine for an objective opinion I certainly don't want the Consumer Association to be selling ads in their publication, which they don't do. That's just my opinion, which is why I personally would never trust what is said on those other sites either.
Again, I don't want to create more friction so I will go back to reading posts here. I was going to also quote some of the things you wrote previously, but like I say, just go back and look at it objectively yourself. (By the way, I could not find any remark you made about being a stud so don't know what Paycheck is referring to, but you have made some disparging comments about guys here who must, therefore, be unable to find women and other such comments. I'm using nice words so as not to get the others started again.)
Keep in mind, not everybody can always be wrong. Sometimes we all need to step back and look at our own actions.
I still keep my original opinion that I think your post (assessment) is wrong. If anyone is hypocritical it's guys hiding on this pfishy website, always lurking, and never posting. I agree with one of the earlier posts to this effect.
I think the point made by Paycheck, Simpson and dominic5 etc etc is that they don't lurk or post on the other sites under anonymous names, to begin with. They just read. At least that's what I got. Maybe because I was the same in the past. But I'll let them speak for themselves.
I should mention in conclusion that when I said anyone can look at posts without needing to use fake names I mean Public Groups. All those other guys need to do is keep their forum Closed and that will be the end of that. If they want readers to access their Facebook or site, they can make it Members Only for reading as well.
So I don't see why they need to get their shorts in a knot whenever people talk about post. It's not like pfishy is the only review site on the W W W. And I don't see anything subversive or even hypocritical about reading posts that they themselves invite the public to read.
I think they need to grow up and decide what they want to do before suddenly jumping on here and muddying the waters.
I will go back to reading whenever I can but hope everyone enjoys the summer while they can. Preferably not in front of the computer either !!
I am staying out of any fights. That's one reason I don't post here or any of the other forums. Also, I find it too addictive. Or did.
Your last post was calm enough, but be honest, if you re-read everybody's post (I don't mean just yours, everybody's), there are enough insults to go around. I can't say I have read all the posts for the past few months but the most recent ones you did start a few guys going. Whether that was your intention or not, your comments are what they are.
All I am saying about the last couple of posts is that I used to look at all sites. Not just this site but those sites that say they are just helping guys out. I would have to agree that they have other motivations just as any other website does.
Without talking about Chnlove specifically, I think it is bad to be censoring guys whether they are right or wrong, or whether if you or I agree with them or not. Because freedom of speech, presumably, will lead to the truth.
When guys post bad things whether they are about certain agencies or certain ladies it is not justified to say you are closing shop just because that's not what you are all about. Maybe it is. In that case, just state what you are instead of telling readers that you are just trying to help guys like me. That is not accurate at all.
I also don't want to get into the debate about where all these names or guys are coming from but I would also conclude that if they don't work for Chnlove they certainly have a close association when I first started out at least. You don't keep thanking Chnlove for no good reason. If I read the Consumer Magazine for an objective opinion I certainly don't want the Consumer Association to be selling ads in their publication, which they don't do. That's just my opinion, which is why I personally would never trust what is said on those other sites either.
Again, I don't want to create more friction so I will go back to reading posts here. I was going to also quote some of the things you wrote previously, but like I say, just go back and look at it objectively yourself. (By the way, I could not find any remark you made about being a stud so don't know what Paycheck is referring to, but you have made some disparging comments about guys here who must, therefore, be unable to find women and other such comments. I'm using nice words so as not to get the others started again.)
Keep in mind, not everybody can always be wrong. Sometimes we all need to step back and look at our own actions.
I still keep my original opinion that I think your post (assessment) is wrong. If anyone is hypocritical it's guys hiding on this pfishy website, always lurking, and never posting. I agree with one of the earlier posts to this effect.
I think the point made by Paycheck, Simpson and dominic5 etc etc is that they don't lurk or post on the other sites under anonymous names, to begin with. They just read. At least that's what I got. Maybe because I was the same in the past. But I'll let them speak for themselves.
I should mention in conclusion that when I said anyone can look at posts without needing to use fake names I mean Public Groups. All those other guys need to do is keep their forum Closed and that will be the end of that. If they want readers to access their Facebook or site, they can make it Members Only for reading as well.
So I don't see why they need to get their shorts in a knot whenever people talk about post. It's not like pfishy is the only review site on the W W W. And I don't see anything subversive or even hypocritical about reading posts that they themselves invite the public to read.
I think they need to grow up and decide what they want to do before suddenly jumping on here and muddying the waters.
I will go back to reading whenever I can but hope everyone enjoys the summer while they can. Preferably not in front of the computer either !!